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  1. Citação Postado originalmente por Bios
    Citação Postado originalmente por vonlinkerstain
    Nunca tinha ouvido falar que os bsds rodavam até em palms... interessante isso, pois já li muitas páginas de pessoas que tentaram rodar o linux no palm, mes elas nem sempre obtiveram sucesso nisso...

    Oi Von !!

    Aproveitei esse topico para pesquisar um pouquinho mais sobre o assunto, achei bem interesante ..

    Achei um artigo completinho sobre a instalação do NetBSD no Palm .... se vc quiser dar uma olhadinha vai nesse endereço:


    Valeu bios T este artigo... pena que é pra um hp...

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  3. Dei uma pesquizadinha também e aqui vão as plataformas suportadas
    Código :
        acorn26 	arm  	Acorn Archimedes, A-series and R-series systems  	2.0 	stable
        acorn32 	arm 	Acorn RiscPC/A7000/NC and compatibles 	2.0 	stable
        algor 	mips 	Algorithmics MIPS evaluation boards 	2.0 	stable
        alpha 	alpha 	Digital Alpha (64-bit) 	2.0 	stable
        amd64 	x86_64 	Advanced Micro Devices AMD64(tm) 64-bit CPUs 	2.0 	stable
        amiga 	m68k 	Commodore Amiga, MacroSystem DraCo 	2.0 	stable
        amigappc 	powerpc 	PowerPC-based Amiga boards 	none 	exper
        arc 	mips 	Machines following the Advanced RISC Computing spec 	2.0 	stable
        atari 	m68k 	Atari TT030, Falcon, Hades 	2.0 	stable
        bebox 	powerpc 	Be Inc's BeBox 	snap 	exper
        cats 	arm 	Chalice Technology's Strong Arm evaluation board 	2.0 	stable
        cesfic 	m68k 	CES's FIC8234 VME processor board 	2.0 	stable
        cobalt 	mips 	Cobalt Networks' Microservers 	2.0 	stable
        dreamcast 	sh3 	Sega Dreamcast game console 	2.0 	stable
        evbarm 	arm 	ARM evaluation boards 	2.0 	stable
        evbmips 	mips 	MIPS-based evaluation boards 	2.0 	stable
        evbppc 	powerpc 	PowerPC-based evaluation boards 	2.0 	stable
        evbsh3 	sh3 	Evaluation boards with Hitachi Super-H SH3 and SH4 CPUs 	2.0 	stable
        evbsh5 	sh5 	Evaluation boards with SuperH SH5 32/64-bit CPU 	2.0 	stable
        hp300 	m68k 	Hewlett-Packard 9000/300 and 400 series 	2.0 	stable
        hp700 	hppa 	Hewlett-Packard 9000/700 series 	snap 	exper
        hpcarm 	arm 	StrongARM based Windows CE PDA machines 	2.0 	stable
        hpcmips 	mips 	MIPS based Windows CE PDA machines 	2.0 	stable
        hpcsh 	sh3 	Hitachi SH3 and SH4 based Windows CE PDA machines 	2.0 	stable
        i386 	i386 	i386 family IBM PCs and clones 	2.0 	stable
        iyonix 	arm 	Iyonix ARM pc 	none 	exper
        luna68k 	m68k 	OMRON Tateisi Electric's LUNA series 	2.0 	stable
        mac68k 	m68k 	Apple Macintosh 	2.0 	stable
        macppc 	powerpc 	Apple Power Macintosh and clones 	2.0 	stable
        mipsco 	mips 	Mips family of workstations and servers 	2.0 	stable
        mmeye 	sh3 	Brains' mmEye Multi Media Server 	2.0 	stable
        mvme68k 	m68k 	Motorola MVME 68k SBCs 	2.0 	stable
        mvmeppc 	powerpc 	Motorola MVME PowerPC SBCs 	2.0 	stable
        netwinder 	arm 	StrongARM based NetWinder machines 	2.0 	stable
        news68k 	m68k 	Sony's m68k based "NET WORK STATION" series 	2.0 	stable
        newsmips 	mips 	Sony's MIPS based "NET WORK STATION" series 	2.0 	stable
        next68k 	m68k 	NeXT 68k 'black' hardware 	2.0 	stable
        ofppc 	powerpc 	Generic OpenFirmware compliant PowerPC machines 	2.0 	stable
        pc532 	ns32k 	PC532 	1.5 	stable
        playstation2 	mips 	SONY PlayStation 2 	snap 	exper
        pmax 	mips 	Digital MIPS-based DECstations and DECsystems 	2.0 	stable
        pmppc 	powerpc 	Artesyn's PM/PPC board 	2.0 	stable
        prep 	powerpc 	PReP (PowerPC Reference Platform) and CHRP machines 	2.0 	stable
        sandpoint 	powerpc 	Motorola Sandpoint reference platform 	2.0 	stable
        sbmips 	mips 	Broadcom SiByte evaluation boards 	2.0 	stable
        sgimips 	mips 	Silicon Graphics' MIPS-based workstations 	2.0 	stable
        shark 	arm 	Digital DNARD ("shark") 	2.0 	stable
        sparc 	sparc 	Sun SPARC (32-bit) 	2.0 	stable
        sparc64 	sparc 	Sun UltraSPARC (64-bit) 	2.0 	stable
        sun2 	m68k 	Sun 2 	2.0 	stable
        sun3 	m68k 	Sun 3 and 3x 	2.0 	stable
        vax 	vax 	Digital VAX 	2.0 	stable
        walnut 	powerpc 	IBM 405GP PowerPC "walnut" evaluation board 	2.0 	stable
        x68k 	m68k 	Sharp X680x0 series 	2.0 	stable
        xen 	i386 	Xen Virtual Machine Monitor 	none 	exper
    Ports by CPU architecture (top)
    This table contains the same set of ports as in the above list, but ordered by MACHINE_ARCH CPU architecture value (returned by 'uname -p'). Machines of the same MACHINE_ARCH share the same userland binaries (with a few device specific exceptions). Note that both big endian (eb) and little endian (el) MIPS and SH3 ports are supported.
        CPU 	Port
        alpha 	alpha
        arm 	acorn26  acorn32  cats  evbarm  hpcarm  iyonix  netwinder shark 
        hppa 	hp700
        i386 	i386  xen
        m68010 	sun2 
        m68k 	amiga  atari  cesfic  hp300  luna68k  mac68k  mvme68k  news68k  next68k  sun3  x68k
        mipseb 	evbmips  (either eb and el) mipsco  newsmips  sbmips  (either eb and el) sgimips
        mipsel 	algor  arc  cobalt  evbmips  hpcmips  playstation2  pmax  sbmips 
        ns32k 	pc532
        powerpc 	amigappc  bebox  evbppc macppc  mvmeppc  ofppc  pmppc  prep  sandpoint 
        sh3eb 	evbsh3  (either eb and el) mmeye
        sh3el 	dreamcast  evbsh3  hpcsh 
        sh5 	evbsh5 
        sparc 	sparc 
        sparc64 	sparc64 (Can also run sparc binaries)
        vax 	vax
        x86_64 	amd64 (Can also run i386 binaries)
    Experimental ports (exper) (top)
    Experimental ports are those marked 'exper' in the above table, and have generally not yet been distributed as part of an official NetBSD release. They are available through the experimental NetBSD-current source distribution and some are additionally available via pre-compiled binary snapshots provided by the port maintainers from time to time.
    We encourage you to test experimental ports, but not all of them will provide stable service. Those that are stable and ready will be available in the next currently scheduled release. Look at the individual pages for details, or ask on the port's corresponding mailing list.
    Not yet integrated porting efforts
    General Information about not yet integrated ports (top)
    For ports not listed above, no support is available as formal release or in the mainline experimental source distribution.
    In most cases, people porting to a new machine wish to stay unknown to the public. This is a necessity, as answering "me too"-style requests just takes too much time. If you really think you can contribute to porting to a new machine (read: have started already; or know how to do it, but just don't want to duplicate efforts; or know lots about the internals of the machine which are not publicly known) you should contact the core group, who will provide contact to your co-strugglers.
    Details about some not yet integrated ports (top)
    However, for these machines, more details are available:
          Apollo DNxxxx Workstations
          Pete Hufnagel [email]CaptnZilog@aol.com[/email] is working on a port to the m68k based Apollo workstations. He has most of the information he needs, and is aiming towards initial support for netbooting via a serial console.
          Connectix VirtualPC
          A software emulated Pentium machine running on PowerMAC machines. The University of Melbourne, Department of Computer Science has developed a set of patches for NetBSD/i386 to enable it to run under VirtualPC.
          A semi-PC compatible line of computers made by NEC. (Page is in Japanese).
    Suggested Ports
    ARM (top)
          Psion 5 series
          An ARM7100 based handheld palmtop with 4-16MB of RAM, 640x280 greyscale display, CompactFlash slot, serial, audio, IrDA, and an excellent keyboard. Uses the same series of CPU as NetBSD/arm32.
          Contact: <port-arm@NetBSD.org>.
          Precedence NC
          ARM7500FE based network computer, primarily sold into schools in the UK. Stephen Borrill has recently lent a machine to a NetBSD developer who is interested in working on a port.
          Contact: <port-arm@NetBSD.org>.
          MicroDigital Mico
          ARM7500FE based machine with on-board USB and ISA slots. Normally runs RISC OS, so should be able to be supported by NetBSD/arm32.
          Contact: <port-arm@NetBSD.org>.
          RiscStation R7500
          Yet another ARM7500FE based RISC OS box. Should be no harder than the rest of them to support.
          Contact: <port-arm@NetBSD.org>.
    Motorola M680X0 (top)
          The Q40 is a 68040 based successor to the Sinclair QL, with enhanced graphics, storage and peripheral capabilities.
          Contact: <port-m68k@NetBSD.org>.
          Other 68k based VME boards
          Tadpole (with their TP34V), BVM, and Densan produce boards similar to the Motorola mvme68k range. A linux port to the Tadpole and BVM boards is available.
          Contact: <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.
          Cisco M68K based routers
          One of cisco's previous range of routers were 68030 and 68040 based. An example would be the AGS+, a rackmount multibus system with 16MB of RAM, 2MB flash RAM, serial and multiple ethernet and other interfaces. These can sometimes be found on sites such as ebay for a few hundred dollars.
          Contact: <port-m68k@NetBSD.org>.
          NCR Tower 32
          The Tower 32 is a 68020-based machine from about 1987 that normally runs System V release 3, pretty much straight as it came from AT&T. It's at the slow end of things by today's standard. The specification is probably:
              o Stock 68020 VM hardware
              o Around 16 meg max of RAM
              o QIC-150 tape drive on a dedicated controller
              o Two ST-506 system disks
              o Multibus-I expansion bus (IEEE-796)
              o Optional SCSI
          This machine apparently had a custom MMU, not suitable for paged virtual memory.
          Hardware docs are likely to be nonexistent, since the machine was built before NCR abandoned the 68000 line for Intel, which in turn was before AT&T bought them out and then spun them off again.
          Contact: <port-m68k@NetBSD.org>.
          DIAB DS90
          (from Iggy Drougge)
          m68k machines built throughout the eighties and early nineties, until DIAB was bought by Bull.
          The earliest versions are 68000 and 68010 based, but from the DS90/20 on, they're fully 32-bit. There were single-processor as well as SMP machines. The top of the range is believed to have featured four 68040 processors. The native OS is DNIX, a kind of System V or System III with a real-time kernel.
          Apart from the m68k processor(s), there is/are VME bus(es), SCSI (believed to be Zilog) and some proprietary bus called DB. There is already support for almost every component spread across the existing NetBSD ports, excluding SMP. The machines themselves are multiuser systems with support for dozens of terminals given the right expansion cards.
          Iggy has a DS90/20 workstation which he has kindly made available for anyone who wishes to attempt a port to these machines.
          Contact: <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.
    Motorola PowerPC (top)
          Apple Nubus powermacs
          The early PowerPC Macintosh systems were built along the lines of their earlier mac68k systems: nubus architecture and custom ROMs. The NetBSD/macppc port requires OpenFirmware, which is not available on these systems. MkLinux, an Open Source effort partially funded and engineered by Apple, supports several of these older boxes. Bob Nestor <rnestor@metronet.com> would be willing to loan his Performa-5320 All-in-One to anyone interested.
          Contact: <port-macppc@NetBSD.org>.
          Densan produce a range of PowerPC based VME and CompactPCI systems. These boards share a common system ASIC which mimicks the PCC2 used in Motorola's mvme68k systems.
          Contact: <port-powerpc@NetBSD.org>, and [email]port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org[/email].
          IBM RS/6000 (MCA based)
          The pre-PowerPC RS/6000 machines were based on the POWER and POWER2 architecture, with Microchannel (MCA) bus. There is i386 MCA bus code in NetBSD tree now, which would help with the MCA aspect.
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>
    Motorola M88K (top)
        The Motorola 88000-series microprocessors (88100+88200 and the 88110) were Motorola's RISC processors of the late 1980's and early 1990's. They abandoned the m88k systems to concentrate on the PowerPC with Apple and IBM, but not before several good systems were built around the 88k.
          Motorola mvme88k
          Motorola produced a line of 88k-based VME boards--similar to their 68k cousins that are supported in the mvme68k port. OpenBSD has support for some of these cards.
          Contact: <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>, and Allen Briggs <briggs@ninthwonder.com>.
          DG AViiON
          Data General produced a number of AViiON systems, from uniprocessor workstations to multiprocessor servers, based around the 88k architecture. Allen Briggs has one of the dual-processor deskside units (the AV400), but has no documentation.
          Contact: <port-m88k@NetBSD.org>, and Allen Briggs <briggs@ninthwonder.com>.
          OMRON luna88k
          One of the earlier 88k systems was the OMRON LUNA-88K, a 4-processor machine used for Mach development at CMU. These purportedly have some documentation, but it's also purported to be in Japanese. These systems are fairly rare.
          Contact: <port-m88k@NetBSD.org>, and Allen Briggs <briggs@ninthwonder.com>.
    MIPS (top)
          64-bit MIPS
          Many of the existing NetBSD/mips platforms are capable of running 64-bit code. A NetBSD/mips64 port would be similar to NetBSD/alpha with 64-bit longs and pointers and 32-bit ints.
          Contact: <port-mips@NetBSD.org>.
          Densan produce a range of MIPS based VME and CompactPCI systems. These boards share a common system ASIC which mimicks the PCC2 used in Motorola's mvme68k systems.
          Contact: <port-mips@NetBSD.org>, and <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.
          Tektronics/NCD X-terminals
          NCD produced a wide range of X-terminals, including the MIPS R4600 based HMX, HMXpro, and HMXpro24. The HMX and HMXpro were 8bit and the HMXpro24 24bit displays, and all machines had custom ASICs as coprocessors. NCD recently released an RM5200 based successor to the HMXpro24. The biggest obstacle to the port would be obtaining technical information on the machines.
          Contact: <port-mips@NetBSD.org>.
          Nintendo 64
          Given the progress on the NetBSD/sh3 port to the Sega Dreamcast, another obvious target could be the MIPS R4000 series based Nintendo 64 games console. Games consoles share many interface and resource limitations with embedded and palmtop devices, opening a possibly more serious side to the port.
          Contact: <port-mips@NetBSD.org>.
    Hitachi Super-H (SH3/SH4) (top)
          Densan produce a range of SuperH based VME board systems. These boards share a common system ASIC which mimicks the PCC2 used in Motorola's mvme68k systems.
          Contact: <port-sh3@NetBSD.org>, and <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.
    Intel i386 and above (top)
          Sun 386i (roadrunner)
          Sun's attempt to produce an Intel based workstation. Based on a 20 or 25Mhz 386 CPU plus FPU, 4MB to 16MB RAM, intel 'ie' ethernet, 'cg3' or 'cg5' framebuffer, SCSI, serial, parallel, and several ISA slots. Many drivers could be shared with the sun3 and sparc ports. Ran SunOS 4.0.{1,2,3}.
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>.
          Nokia 9110 communicator
          Cellular modem and personal communicator in one. Reputed to be a based on a pretty standard i486 with 2MB of RAM and a custom keyboard setup. Support for I/O and memory expansion options could make this more interesting, particularly the cellular modem.
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>.
          Densan produce a range of x86 based VME and CompactPCI systems. These boards share a common system ASIC which mimicks the PCC2 used in Motorola's mvme68k systems.
          Contact: <port-i386@NetBSD.org>, and <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.
    Other (top)
          DEC PDP-10
          NetBSD/pdp10 is a suggested port of NetBSD to the 36bit DEC PDP-10 computers, their clones, and PDP-10 software emulators.
          Contact: <port-pdp10@NetBSD.org> [ subscribe | archive ]
          IBM AS/400
          IBM's proprietary minicomputer range. Early models were based on an IBM CISC CPU. Current models have switched across to the Motorola PowerPC. There are some linux folk who have set up a Linux on AS/400 Project with some information, including posts by two IBM engineers as to the lack of hardware support in the CISC processors for several important features needed by a unix-like OS.
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>.
          IBM S/390
          A NetBSD/390 port should be straightforward now that there's a gcc for the 390 available. Besides, it wouldn't even require access to a real machine to start development since the Hercules S/390 emulator is in the package tree.
          Contact: <port-s390@NetBSD.org> [ subscribe | archive ]
          IBM PC-RT
          An early workstation from IBM, based on the IBM '032' or ROMP CPU. Also known as IBM models 6150, 6151 or 6152. Ran both AIX and a customised version of BSD (called AOS).
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>.
          Intel i960
          There were a few variants of the i960 architecture that included an MMU, but virtually all of the i960 devices shipped, such as X-terminals, printers, and routers, were based on the cheaper non MMU versions.
          Contact: <netbsd-ports@NetBSD.org>.
          Intel's IA-64 (Itanium)
          Documentation is available via the Intel Itanium Processor Family webpage. Also see FreeBSD's FreeBSD/ia64 project pages for information on FreeBSD's work on porting the Intel's IA-64 to FreeBSD.
          Contact : <tech-ports@NetBSD.org>,
          NEC V800
          Densan produce a V800 based VME board system. This board uses a system ASIC which mimicks the PCC2 used in Motorola's mvme68k systems. The V800 is a RISC chip designed for embedded applications - a port would be something of a challenge.
          Contact: <tech-ports@NetBSD.org>, and <port-mvme68k@NetBSD.org>.

    Caralho acho que foi muito grande

  4. #8
    Ok, mas não entendi bem quais são as difrençias .. em relação a sistemas..
    :| em relação a rodar em palm etcetcetc isso entendi aora as diferençias realmente deles 3 não entendi :/
    desculpa :roll:

  5. Um é pra rodar em tudo o que é máquina (netbsd), o outro procura ser o mais seguro possível (openbsd), e o outro procura ser o mais rápido possível (freebsd)..

  6. #10
    E em um benchmark (que perdi o endereço) o Kernel Linux 2.6 era O(n) em vários aspectos testados e o FreeBSD 5.x estava a caminho (em um ele não era O(n)), os demais tomaram surra... inclusive o kernel linux 2.4 se dava razoavelmente bem contra eles...

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